Date: 2020-11-02 08:01 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] brin_bellway
>>I'd argue also that there's a kind of implicit logical link there, almost, that any situation that requires of you unprecedented action is an unprecedented situation? I'm not even sure that "unprecedented situation" is an incorrect set of words for "The model remains valid, but we're in a very unusual part of it"

That's fair when taken out of context, but...when I first started seeing "unprecedented times" from journalists and the like, I got the (possibly incorrect) impression that the point was to soothe their ego damage from having been caught completely off guard, by claiming that a generic Reasonable Person would also have been caught completely off guard. Which I don't really think is true: even in one of the least disease-ridden parts of space-time that humanity has ever yet experienced, the correct answer to "will there be a plague at some point in the future" is always yes (and unless you are already quite close to death, the correct answer to "will there be a plague in *my personal* future" is generally likewise yes).

(Of course, the devil is in the details. If you're facing a lot of other life bullshit without an active plague it's reasonable to think you have many higher priorities to work on than anti-plague measures, and you might well be right. And I will absolutely admit that I was not paying enough attention to airborne pathogens previously, and will be wearing masks in [more indoor situations than I used to] in perpetuity, if perhaps not quite as many as right now.)

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>>(The other thing that I think of here is how I've cut out *sooo* much anger. I was such a fucking angry 10 year old and now I'm much much much less so. I still have it as an emotion when situationally appropriate, but there was this - profound frustration and anger at the shape of the world and the people in it that I don't have now, even though I'm a lot more aware of the hows and whys of (and the sheer vast extent of) the world's damage.)

I'm more the other way around. When I was 10 I was completely incapable of remaining angry about anything for longer than 10 - 15 minutes, even things where I intellectually thought that >15 minutes would be appropriate. Puberty gave me the capacity to hold grudges, which in hindsight I think has been a net-negative tradeoff.

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>>(this is esp true of you since you have historically given good and interesting advice)

:)


>>no I can't get it delivered, no I don't know anyone who I can get a lift from

My first thought, before I cut that thought process off with "I should ask first if they actually want me contemplating workarounds for this", was sort of a mix of these two: asking a flatmate who was going to go out anyway if they could pick up some groceries on your behalf. Combining these strategies would compensate for *some* of the downsides of each, though possibly not enough of them.


>>I'm not sure taxis/uber are substantially safer than the train TBH

Depending on the details of the situation, I would expect most taxis to be safer than most trains (upsides: more ventilation, air shared with fewer people. downsides: guaranteed to be sitting next to someone who works a very high-risk profession, namely taxi driver). Very possibly not worth the expense and the learning curve, though, yeah.


If you *do* have to resort to train-based shopping, you might at least be able to minimise crowds. I'm not sure if you're still nocturnal, but if so that might work to your advantage. Bear in mind that the Google panopticon will tell you which times of day tend to be busier than others (also how the current level of busy-ness compares to the norm, which they seem to have re-normed for 2020 now), if you look at that store's listing on Google Maps. (There's a dropdown and/or arrows for looking at the patterns of other days of the week.)

*pokes Google Maps* Looks like they also do it for *some* train stations, but not all. Probably a size threshold.

Shopping *before* the rush is better than shopping *after* the rush, since germs can linger in the air.

(Also the fit of the mask can make a large difference in danger levels, but you likely knew that bit already. I had that one viscerally driven home to me a few weeks ago and I see a lot of people wearing obviously poorly-fitted masks, so it comes to mind.)

I'll let you know if I think of anything else.
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