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brin_bellway) wrote2023-05-28 11:41 pm
brin_bellway) wrote2023-05-28 11:41 pm
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[cw: poverty, discourse, (arguably) apocalypse, (arguably) poison]
[loosely inspired by this tweet (h/t![[twitter.com profile]](https://p.dreamwidth.org/e0caa790ec10/-/twitter.com/favicon.ico)
zmavli), but it's been percolating for a while]
The particular set of psychological baggage you get from having spent most of your life living-primarily-off-of-dwindling-savings!poor makes degrowth discourse look *very weird*.
Every time I encounter degrowth discourse, *everyone in it* is confusing "is" and "ought". The debate ends up being between the people who think that degrowth *should* happen and the people who think that degrowth *isn't* happening.
Degrowth is not good. Degrowth is not right. But degrowth *is*. Ignore it at your peril.
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Also, while I'm on the subject, shoutout (derogatory) to this guy, whom I read because I thought there might be some common ground between voluntary-simplicity types and us involuntary-simplicity types.
But he's...like, he has one hole, and by God he is going to put *every* peg into it.
I am not ever going to have an idyllic plastic-free life as a farmer! I can maybe see myself having a *tolerable* life as a farmer paying *heavy Pigovian taxes* (or just scarcity pricing) on plastic, but do you know what's made out of plastic? *Air filters*! If he thinks I'm going to be outside working the fields all day in zero plastic, he is *out of his goddamn mind*.
[loosely inspired by this tweet (h/t
The particular set of psychological baggage you get from having spent most of your life living-primarily-off-of-dwindling-savings!poor makes degrowth discourse look *very weird*.
Every time I encounter degrowth discourse, *everyone in it* is confusing "is" and "ought". The debate ends up being between the people who think that degrowth *should* happen and the people who think that degrowth *isn't* happening.
Degrowth is not good. Degrowth is not right. But degrowth *is*. Ignore it at your peril.
---
Also, while I'm on the subject, shoutout (derogatory) to this guy, whom I read because I thought there might be some common ground between voluntary-simplicity types and us involuntary-simplicity types.
But he's...like, he has one hole, and by God he is going to put *every* peg into it.
I am not ever going to have an idyllic plastic-free life as a farmer! I can maybe see myself having a *tolerable* life as a farmer paying *heavy Pigovian taxes* (or just scarcity pricing) on plastic, but do you know what's made out of plastic? *Air filters*! If he thinks I'm going to be outside working the fields all day in zero plastic, he is *out of his goddamn mind*.
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Me, listening to music tonight: Man, I cannot *begin* to figure out what Vienna Teng is saying in the verse after the first chorus of "Copenhagen (Let Me Go)". I wonder what Genius says it is?
Genius:
We lay it out on the map
Debate it all in caps
Lock our eyes on
Distant horizons
Where we will shift to some informed accord
Also, did you know this song is about climate-change coordination failures?
Me, someone who has been under the impression that this song was about an unhealthy on-again-off-again romantic relationship for like a decade: ...is this one of *those* fucking takes? the completely off-the-wall ones? Is this even, like, canon, or did some rando put this on here?
Me, poking around for canonical takes: [can't find anything perfectly fitting the category "canonical take", but evidence does kind of seem to lean that way]
Me: ...okay, so, I *guess* that would make more sense of the verses, but it doesn't fit the chorus at *all*.
Me': ...you know that post we've had in drafts the past few days? ...you *sure* the chorus doesn't fit?
Me: ...hmm.
(I still hold to my own interpretation of "We Sink", though)