"Man in the 1% of the 1% in both desire to write and success as an author complains that AI writing will have negative impacts on humanity as a whole", sure buddy. I've always thought it deeply deeply concerning that we get all our opinions on the value of art from artists writing about how much they love their work, it seems almost ... incestuous? Recursive? Dangerous, in that we hear songs about the power of music and books about the power of storytelling and I think that just slices something valuable out of the set of human experience which can be communicated by art in a way I'm not sure how to think or talk about. Maybe I should become an anchorite, that seems ... really unpleasant in specific, but they were maybe also working on this problem, not that any one lifetime can make the progress of a thousand compounding works of art in the other domain.
Esp the short story he wrote, I think, exposes how much of this is like, him trying to rationalise his fear of not being read to his readers, who, as you say, have always been and always will be, so opportunity-saturated for mediocre-to-good things to read that generating more shit does nothing except when it comes to filling out tiny niches (which are the thing the generators are most singularly bad at, as it happens, though "I want these ten variables in a well-expressed space to be set how I like them" is somewhat more likely to work than genuinely alien contortions)
but mostly, yeah, exactly, wrt community and like, the power of art to communicate (and the power of humans to curate). He says that art can't express things when it's AI made - I'd rather expect the opposite, that AI would be a more powerful tool for expression and communication (because it's a more powerful tool in general). For every artist I know who is marching along expressing their vision well, I know three who're doing it awfully and thirty who just don't have the skills or spoons at all. Prompt-generated writing might, just, might (but maybe not, see, specificity), be able to decouple the right to express yourself with art from the technical demands of being able to do art. (or you can just take up carpentry, like my father. Very good art-form carpentry, because tables are very specific. My father is a very good carpenter and I like my table a lot!)
The art-as-industry thing is a trashfire. Never do anything for a living which teenagers will do for free. Certainly I'm in the same bin as Alexander Wales of "oh I will probably try and use these tools to illustrate books/media which realistically otherwise would have gone un-illustrated, which will probably increase their quality". Makes the idea of a Fallen Tower publication that much more realistic, since it's not ever going to be high-budget (read: Not ever going to have a budget other than the skill and labour of my and my coplayers) and it needs illustrations but only generic fantasy ones.
My main worry is that I suspect a prompt-generator well-tuned to my personal taste in compelling-but-trash could produce something destructively addictive once it gets up the scale to be coherent at a million words rather than a thousand words, but also yeah, these systems are profoundly generic in nature. See that link Izolende posted [thoughts specific to that link moved to that thread.]
... that sure was like, five different comments all sort of loaded up together. Sorry?
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Esp the short story he wrote, I think, exposes how much of this is like, him trying to rationalise his fear of not being read to his readers, who, as you say, have always been and always will be, so opportunity-saturated for mediocre-to-good things to read that generating more shit does nothing except when it comes to filling out tiny niches (which are the thing the generators are most singularly bad at, as it happens, though "I want these ten variables in a well-expressed space to be set how I like them" is somewhat more likely to work than genuinely alien contortions)
but mostly, yeah, exactly, wrt community and like, the power of art to communicate (and the power of humans to curate). He says that art can't express things when it's AI made - I'd rather expect the opposite, that AI would be a more powerful tool for expression and communication (because it's a more powerful tool in general). For every artist I know who is marching along expressing their vision well, I know three who're doing it awfully and thirty who just don't have the skills or spoons at all. Prompt-generated writing might, just, might (but maybe not, see, specificity), be able to decouple the right to express yourself with art from the technical demands of being able to do art. (or you can just take up carpentry, like my father. Very good art-form carpentry, because tables are very specific. My father is a very good carpenter and I like my table a lot!)
The art-as-industry thing is a trashfire. Never do anything for a living which teenagers will do for free. Certainly I'm in the same bin as Alexander Wales of "oh I will probably try and use these tools to illustrate books/media which realistically otherwise would have gone un-illustrated, which will probably increase their quality". Makes the idea of a Fallen Tower publication that much more realistic, since it's not ever going to be high-budget (read: Not ever going to have a budget other than the skill and labour of my and my coplayers) and it needs illustrations but only generic fantasy ones.
My main worry is that I suspect a prompt-generator well-tuned to my personal taste in compelling-but-trash could produce something destructively addictive once it gets up the scale to be coherent at a million words rather than a thousand words, but also yeah, these systems are profoundly generic in nature. See that link Izolende posted [thoughts specific to that link moved to that thread.]
... that sure was like, five different comments all sort of loaded up together. Sorry?